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RM, WP:Requested moves → WP:Proposed moves, No consensus, 7 June 2007
RM, WP:Requested moves → WP:Proposed moves, Not moved, 11 February 2018
RM, WP:Requested moves → WP:Articles for renaming, Not moved, 19 September 2018
RM, WP:Requested moves → WP:Requested title changes, Not moved, 22 July 2024

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Concerning numerous page moves

There is currently a discussion at Talk:Gaza war regarding moving dozens of child articles. Any suggestions or feedback on how best to proceed would be appreciated (RM/RMUM/RMTR)? Included is a list of all "Israel–Hamas war" titled articles. The thread is Related pages, templates, and categories. The discussion is about the topic Gaza war. Thank you. CNC (talk) 15:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RMTR edit notice update

Do people here, especially who patrol RMTR requests, and contest ones which cannot be done uncontroversially, think that we can include a warning in the editnotice for Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests that only add a request if it either explicitly violats any WP:AT policy, clearly supported by WP:RS, and the name change keeps in mind WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:COMMONNAME. Most of the contesting just include a link to these policies and is eventually removed as stale/RM is started by proposer. This can possibly make people think again before posting requests. Open to ideas about how should we frame it. Link to current notice: Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting

Hi, would it be possible to get a relisting at Talk:Wassoulou Empire? Kowal2701 (talk) 16:07, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion has been opened for a month already. Not really sure a relisting is going to help. Vpab15 (talk) 17:00, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But doesn’t relisting it move it to the top of WP:RM#C so it gets more input? I was under the impression that RMs where there was no clear consensus get relisted a few times Kowal2701 (talk) 17:14, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Something you don't see everyday!

~~Here is a diff~~ (that diff has been erased somehow) ~~of this RM subject page to look at – you'll need to scroll down to the very end of the #Backlog section and find this entry:~~

(Discuss) – Most–Híd → Most–Híd 2023 – Current name of the party – see https://rez.vs.minv.sk/PolitickeStrany/detail?id_spolok=152949 ==Not neutral== "the Party of the Hungarian Coalition, who have become increasingly nationalist under the new leader, Pál Csáky". Who said this? Source?--B@xter⁹ 31 July 2009 (UTC)

The IP had not signed the new RM, and the RMCD bot continued into the next section on the talk page to find a timestamp from 2009 to use. This RM should have wound up in the #Time cannot be ascertained and #Malformed requests sections, but instead I found it at the very end of the #Backlog section as the oldest unrelisted RM. The move request has been fixed, and fortunately, this is not something you see everyday. In fact I've never seen the RMCD bot make this particular kind of error before. But I may have missed it. Pretty cool, eh? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 18:52, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS. I inserted a diff to the original RM post in the (Discuss) link above. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 19:13, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed revision to WP:NOTOTHERPAGES

The wording at WP:NOTOTHERPAGES currently states:

If consensus at X signals that Z should move, close the request at Talk:X, do not move Z, and file a new move request at Talk:Z.

I propose this be changed to say:

If consensus at X signals that Z should be disambiguated, and there has been no notification about the potential disambiguating move at Talk:Z, relist the request and announce the likely disambiguation move at Talk:Z.

I think this makes it more consistent with WP:NOGOODOPTIONS, which is just a few paragraphs above. I agree that it can be problematic to disambiguate a title, which is always potentially controversial, without notification at the base name's talk page, but the same issues does not exist in the other direction.

Here's a recent actual example, where I was the closer: Talk:Crazy_Rich_Asians_(novel)#Requested_move_20_February_2025.

The original proposal was to disambiguate the title of the article about the novel, which was at the base name, and to move the dab page to the base name. But during the discussion it was proposed to move the article about the film to the basename, and I found consensus for that, and submitted a technical request for it be moved accordingly. At the technical request, @162_etc. objected that this close decision violated WP:EXPLICIT and WP:NOTOTHERPAGES because "Crazy Rich Asians (film) was never nominated to be moved in this discussion". Others pointed out that such an objection should be made at WP:MR, and the move was executed. Subsequently, 162 opened another RM, Talk:Crazy_Rich_Asians#Requested_move_17_March_2025, again objecting to my close, proposing the move of the film back to the disambiguated title, but there was clear consensus to not do that.

Any objections? I recognize there need to be other minor and obvious tweaks in the NOTOTHERPAGES wording to make it all consistent with this proposed change to the guidance, so that needs to happen too. В²C ☎ 04:26, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]